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		By: Tod Newman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2020 05:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://todnewman.com/covid-19-california-update/#comment-99&quot;&gt;Matt Campbell&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey, what are you going to do in LA?  The virus actually doesn&#039;t grow exponentially (as in y=e^x or y=n^x) but actually all the growth cases I&#039;ve seen are y=x^2 or y=x^3.  Small detail, but the media keeps getting polynomial and exponential confused.

But good question... I&#039;ve toyed with some diagrams in log space (good example would be deaths in NYC compared to deaths in LA) but what I&#039;m trying to do here is be really clear so people don&#039;t get further confused (the various media outlets are major contributors to that confusion).  No one outside technical fields understands what a logarithmic axis means and when that LA data looks like it is getting close to NY data, people start to either get worried or start morality posturing.  But you&#039;re right.  If I was just publishing this for you I&#039;d do it in log space and show lines instead of power curves.

Take care!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://todnewman.com/covid-19-california-update/#comment-99">Matt Campbell</a>.</p>
<p>Hey, what are you going to do in LA?  The virus actually doesn&#8217;t grow exponentially (as in y=e^x or y=n^x) but actually all the growth cases I&#8217;ve seen are y=x^2 or y=x^3.  Small detail, but the media keeps getting polynomial and exponential confused.</p>
<p>But good question&#8230; I&#8217;ve toyed with some diagrams in log space (good example would be deaths in NYC compared to deaths in LA) but what I&#8217;m trying to do here is be really clear so people don&#8217;t get further confused (the various media outlets are major contributors to that confusion).  No one outside technical fields understands what a logarithmic axis means and when that LA data looks like it is getting close to NY data, people start to either get worried or start morality posturing.  But you&#8217;re right.  If I was just publishing this for you I&#8217;d do it in log space and show lines instead of power curves.</p>
<p>Take care!</p>
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		By: Matt Campbell		</title>
		<link>https://todnewman.com/covid-19-california-update/#comment-99</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Todd,
I love your articles and this one really relates given that I’m moving from Massachusetts to LA County this week.  I do have a curious question about the graphics.  Given the virus grows exponentially, would it be better to present the data in log space?  Perhaps it makes communication easier use linear, but I’d think any trends would be more easily described in log.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Todd,<br />
I love your articles and this one really relates given that I’m moving from Massachusetts to LA County this week.  I do have a curious question about the graphics.  Given the virus grows exponentially, would it be better to present the data in log space?  Perhaps it makes communication easier use linear, but I’d think any trends would be more easily described in log.</p>
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		By: Tod Newman		</title>
		<link>https://todnewman.com/covid-19-california-update/#comment-90</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2020 15:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://todnewman.com/covid-19-california-update/#comment-89&quot;&gt;TAEHWAN KIM&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, Taehwan, clearly the data we&#039;re working with is subpar and there is not a good strategy in place.  I feel that the CDC messed up by not having a &quot;shovel-ready&quot; infection data strategy that they could roll out quickly.  As I&#039;ve observed, because they&#039;re so slow, the Systems Engineering dept at JHU had to step up and take over the data role that the CDC should have owned.  Lots of other issues, mostly regarding lack of systems thinking at the US level.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://todnewman.com/covid-19-california-update/#comment-89">TAEHWAN KIM</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, Taehwan, clearly the data we&#8217;re working with is subpar and there is not a good strategy in place.  I feel that the CDC messed up by not having a &#8220;shovel-ready&#8221; infection data strategy that they could roll out quickly.  As I&#8217;ve observed, because they&#8217;re so slow, the Systems Engineering dept at JHU had to step up and take over the data role that the CDC should have owned.  Lots of other issues, mostly regarding lack of systems thinking at the US level.</p>
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		By: TAEHWAN KIM		</title>
		<link>https://todnewman.com/covid-19-california-update/#comment-89</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2020 22:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Your data analysis is very interesting and also compelling, but the weekly new case statistics not backed by contact tracing nor death/recovery data rate may not explain the temporal-spatial distribution of COVID-19 cases.  I immigrated from S. Korea where the contact tracing and larger scale testing, wherever and whenever the cluster shapes up, revealed the large church gathering, dense call-center and UPS-type delivery/transportation, and bar/Buffett restaurants have been the curplit.  It is painful to observe that science based policy and medical infrastructure are falling behind in US.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your data analysis is very interesting and also compelling, but the weekly new case statistics not backed by contact tracing nor death/recovery data rate may not explain the temporal-spatial distribution of COVID-19 cases.  I immigrated from S. Korea where the contact tracing and larger scale testing, wherever and whenever the cluster shapes up, revealed the large church gathering, dense call-center and UPS-type delivery/transportation, and bar/Buffett restaurants have been the curplit.  It is painful to observe that science based policy and medical infrastructure are falling behind in US.</p>
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